Tuesday, January 26, 2010

The Millie is angry...VERY angry!

And when she starts talking in the third person-- WATCH OUT! ;-D

My anger is probably slight overreaction, but still.

I happened to be on TCM.com today, and saw there is going to be a festival of Bob Hope/Bing Crosby "Road" films. So, I clicked on the link, to read the article about it, what I read did not make me very happy.

It's interesting to note that Hope and Crosby were not the loving off-screen buddies that press releases and carefully orchestrated public outings implied they were. Though both men knew a major cash-cow when they were riding one, and thus were able to maintain a fa├žade of deep friendship, they were highly competitive egotists who never missed an opportunity to belittle each other. And it wasn't always in good fun.

First of all, the article does not state where it gets this opinion from, but merely treats it as common knowledge.

It IS important to note that every biography I have read/watched has maintained that they were great and very genuine friends. And the Hope family (I have read many Bob Hope bios and no Bing ones, so most of my quotes/examples come from Bob) has always declared Bing to be one of Bob's closest friends.

Bob Hope once said, "A lot of people think that Bing was a loner, but Bing was a very loyal friend."

"Bob was so broken up about Bing's death that he couldn't sleep for days on end. He stated that it was one of the worst times of his life and that his wife was his rock who got him through the tough time." [source]

Dolores (Bob's wife) said, that the day Bing died was the only time Bob EVER missed a day of work. He was that upset.

Anyway, those quotes are just to explain that their "deep friendship" was not just a "facade".

It is very true that they constantly made fun of each other! It's evident in all their films together, and much of their personal life:

"Bing Crosby and I weren't the types to go around kissing each other. We always had a light jab for each other. One of our stock lines used to be 'There's nothing I wouldn't do for Bing, and there's nothing he wouldn't do for me. And that's the way we go through life - doing nothing for each other!' "

But, that could hardly be construed as a "highly competitive egotist" working hard to "belittle" someone.

Because if that's what that is, than Bob Hope must have disliked pretty much everyone who ever existed. There's hardly anyone who escaped an occasional wisecrack on Bob's part! And in the same way, Bob, himself, loved to joke about his own faults (his nose was an oft-target) and found himself the brunt of many other people's jokes. So...

And speaking of "highly competitive egotist"...are they serious? I can't even IMAGINE anyone calling Bob Hope, of all people, that. Bob Hope is the man who dedicated SO much of his time and money entertaining and supporting the troops. Would the writer of the article also call his over-fifty years of service to the troops - a money-making "facade"?

The last line of the article was really too much for me:

So much for a partnership made in heaven.

That's just not cool. That's writing a "sensational" article about two men, both now dead and unable to defend themselves, who were extremely close friends and genuinely liked each other. Would an article about their long-lasting friendship not have been good enough?

I'm less angry now (after spending the time to write this out) and more disappointed. Disappointed in TCM. TCM is just so amazing (I beyond wish I was able to get that channel where I live) and so faithful in furthering classic movies in today's world. So, I am disappointed that they would publish an article that has so much untruth in it.


P.S. Yes, I'm kinda weird and rather overreacting, but I've been such a Bob Hope fan for longer than I can even remember, so...


Anonymous said...

I haven't read much of tcm's articles, but whoever wrote it clearly didn't know the wrath of Millie was coming to EAT HIS SOUL, so...
But really, you should send this to tcm or something!!
This is Sarah btw, my phone is being such a pain right now!

Anonymous said...


I will believe you before TCM because I keep hearing & reading the same thing too! And being the wonderful source that you are, and after reading this, I know it isn't true. Bing was way too sweet, and Bob was way too cool. AND, they are dead, and cannot defend themselves, so people need to stop before Harley gets started with her rant, mainly because anything that gets Millie so angry is bound to upset me too!

Thanks for sharing, and just thanks. Now I'm gonna watch The Road films.

Millie said...

Thank you so much, Sarah!

AHAHAHA! The wrath of Millie...and her rabid squirrels...;-D

I don't think so, it's not very well written and probably has a factual error in it (I ALWAYS freak out and think there's gonna be something not true in my blog posts...haha)!

Hmm, I'll undo the curse I put on your phone...sorry about that! ;-D

THANKS EVERRRRR SO for the comment!

Mercurie said...

Get 'em Hell, Millie! Anyway, that article just doesn't ring true at all. Granted, they are right that both Bing and Bob had ego. Granted, they are right that they were competitive. But other than that they got it all wrong! Bob and Bing had a long partnership going back to before both were famous and a friendship that continued well after they stopped making Road... movies. Either the person who wrote the article doesn't know what they are talking about, or they just wanted to stir up some controversy!

Millie said...

Harley: Thank you so much! That's the thing. I had never even heard a rumor of Bing and Bob not liking each other!!!!

I'm not a really knowledgeable about exact examples and quotes about/from Bing do you have any?

Aww, my schizophrenic friend! ;-D But, really thanks so much!

OH you totally have to! They are hysterically-brilliantly-funny!

Jennifer said...

I can't believe that there is an article that says that. They were good friends! That's horrible. They wouldn't have done all those Road movies together and Bing wouldn't have been on the Bob Hope Christmas special if they were good friends. GEEZ! The nerve of some people. I totally agree with you this. You rock! :)

Millie said...

Terry: Thank you!!! I know I really think they just wanted to stir up some controversy. How disgusting. :-(

Millie said...

Jennifer: EXACTLY! There was NO reason for them to pretend to be friends...in the 70's. Gosh! Thanks! And thanks for your comment! :-D

Matthew Coniam said...

With you all the way. Some folks just can't stand it when there's no dirt to dig so they invent their own. A pox on the lot of them!

Laura said...

I remember when Bing Crosby died, his will specified that only family be present at his funeral. However, Bing's wife also invited Bob Hope and Rosemary Clooney to be present at the extremely private graveside funeral. There was a photo of the small group at the graveside in the paper.

I think that invitation in and of itself says it all.

A bit of trivia: I remember when Bing died the Olympic torch at the Los Angeles Coliseum was lit in his honor. The only other actor I remember that happening for offhand was John Wayne (who was also a USC Trojan football player, and the Coliseum is the USC home field).

Best wishes,

Anonymous said...

I really hate it when people make accusing remarks about people who are dead, and can't deffend themselves. If Bob and Bing hated each other because they made fun of each other than they must have hated a whole lot of people!

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Ginger Ingenue said...

Aw, don't let it bother you, Millie. :)

I've read all kinds of crazy stuff about my favorites...it's hard to know what to believe, and what not to believe, but as long as you enjoy, and love your own favorites, it doesn't really matter what other people write.

And like you said, if it doesn't match up with the facts you already know, than it's probably just BS anyway. :)


I hope you're well.

Anonymous said...

A few of the articles linked on that page seem to imply that reports of alleged condescention came from Dorothy Lamarr; one of them mentions a book she wrote. One of them, on Road to Zanzibar does give background on how that on the Road partnership got started as well http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/276319%7C79900/Road-to-Zanzibar.html. Either way: only Bing and Hope really know what happened.

Anonymous said...

I just thought of something after writing that last comment: It's possible that they could've been friends, Which the quotes in your most previous post and the comments on this one seem to support that being the case, but had trouble working together...or something like that. Translation: They could've had a situation where they were friends in their non-professional lives, but didn't work together as well professionally. Or maybe my theory is all craziness. But as I wrote previously, they're the only ones who really know. And I hope I'm not banned for these comments. Or anything. *said half-kiddingly*


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